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        Zoning Re-writes & Zoning changes Township-wide are under discussion now
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UpComing Meetings Dec 16th (5:30?)   in the Township Building

TV Coverage ---  Our government access  channel (Comcast 43 Verizon 24 ) at 9 am, 3 pm and 9 pm should carry all the zoning, planning and zoning rewrite meetings so the public can see what is happening . Meetings are long & often full of other issues . We need our available resources. They have been denied since requested in early 2006.

About the rezoning  ----  While some of the items being discussed will be improvements - there are many that, in my own opinion, would never be approved without a chorus of dissent if residents had any clue what was going on.   Efforts to bring many commercial districts right up to the sidewalk, to allow heights above the  35 feet now usually allowed to be possibly 60feet and this in conjunction with some discussion suggesting 10 feet might be  wide enough for a sidewalk, will transform  these areas in our township.  When residents ask, these kinds of details are not shared. They are often just told : "It's an on-going process. Nothing has been decided" .  So they do not get to learn what is being discussed. The rewrite committee could/ should be posting a summary of ideas or their minutes so residents can see and understand.

Meeting Minutes - Please let us know if you would like the documents ( Maps and Minutes) that are available to see these issues for  yourselves. Just contact us & mention your street

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WHAT ARE THE VARIOUS FACETS OF THE
RE-ZONING 
UNDERWAY TOWNSHIP-WIDE?

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 Prong 1    The Old York Rd plan  - See in particular Chapter 4  -  http://abington.org/downloads/OYR/Chapter_4.pdf    There are  several main areas where a concept has been  developed as part of the Old York Road Corridor plan:   Noble train &  The Fairway area---////  Susquehanna & Old York Rd  area-- ////  London Center by Target & Giant -////  Roy Rubicam  area . etc .   The current plans from these proposals, which represent a fraction of what the overall plan finally will entail, might  increase traffic on the busy York Rd thoroughfare  up to 17,500 trips a day   (5000 in any given area)  and would surely  increase Commercial impact on our township in no small way. It is important for residents to know, your Township is not "building" these elements ( Hotel, Parking Garage etc )- your Township is considering these as a "vision" for development - and will be putting into place many zoning mechanisms  that would allow for such a  vision to be possible . While there are some good things in the plan, there seems to be far more in this "vision" that I, personally,  feel is NOT  in my interest.  You should look carefully for yourself.....
    The Old York Rd Study ---  a VERY  few of the issues include :
------  p 119  rewriting our sign ordinance ?
------- p 117 - adding additional 17500 vehicle trips on Old York Rd ? ( and that is just a very fractional 
           count of what is underway in the OVERALL vision for the township.)  
-----  p 113 taking business FROM the mall - the same mall that is possibly being considered for 10
         years of  tax abatements for help ????  How can this make sense?
------ p 137 " if the road is 60 feet high the buildings should be 60 ft hi "  ( 4-5 stories???)  "and sited right
          up to the sidewalk "   ---   When you increase traffic on a road and then bring the buildings in closer
           to the street, the change that you are creating is unmistakable.
----     Take just ONE example from the proposals -  the vision presented in this study  for the London Rd /Target/
          Giant shopping area considers the possibility of  a parking garage, hotel AND  apartment buildings, retail 
         and twins  . Consider the already numerous vacant properties , consider  that this is not a plan to make an area
         more pedestrian friendly to the current residents - it is ADDING residents for  whom no drive to the area is
         necessary. For current residents, they would instead now have to park in the parking garage - quite distant from
         certain stores they may want to visit. when there are so many vacant properties where these elements could
          already be built without over-building here. Residents requests to NOT increase density and to NOT install
          parking garages ( from testimony heard at various prior meetings ) have not been heard .
          In the suburbs, we LIKE pulling up to the stores where we shop.  That's why we live in the suburbs rather than a
           mile or two away in the city where
these  features abound.

----  Still no movie theater in the vision……?   Is it possible there is one coming to the Willow Grove area?
          After the prior surveys where this was a very, very frequent request, one might hope that we would have
          this issue addressed. 
 
Prong 2   Other Commercial areas all over the Township are being considered for changes & up-grades  to more intense uses or more varieties of usage.  A couple of areas might be somewhat downsized.  It would be difficult to even try to calculate the traffic impact  and other consequences of these many changes. They will happen over a period of years - but, again, the zoning changes  that will allow them are happening right now.
 
Prong 3  Residences near Commercial   Zoning rewrites are being  discussed in some residential areas where the residential might meet up with high level commercial use.  But instead of tree lined buffers or other changes to the commercial entities,  what is being discussed is the creation of  "transition zones" where the houses nearest the construction might be rezoned to allow offices, or condos or apartments or twins or other "light commercial" use.  The theory seems to be that by going from heavy commercial to lighter commercial, it will create a buffer zone or transition zone. This will, in my opinion, only increase commercial presence and  actually bring some form of commercial closer to the properties  further in, rather than "buffering" anything.
 
Prong 4   Rewrites to the zoning of  all residential areas  (R1 thru R4 )are under way.  We have not been able to get a summary - but for instance,  possibly Municipal Complex might be added as a "right" rather than a conditional use - so you might have no say in their ability to build next door to you. And will trucks with advertizing be allowed to park on your street....?  And  possibly  "overlay" zones like Land Preservation Development overlays would be rewritten and allowed to  increase  residential density on (one section of) a property.  Theoretically this would leave large green areas for  group or public use - but sometimes these get sold off or given a variance later on,  when memories have faded or no one is paying attention.  So these various changes are important to people - and they should know in time to understand and have a say in the FORMULATION process  of the zoning changes - in a time early enough for the word to spread, for neighborhood discussions and for them to inform themselves before they are brought to a hearing to speak.

WHAT DO WE MEAN BY  ZONING RE-WRITE  ?
         
The discussions underway to re-write our zoning code do not mean someone will be bulldozing your house. Instead, the zoning will take place now and the actual changes will take place over a period of years. When your neighbor sells, will the new owner have the right to build an office?  Residential districts through-out the township R1, R2, R3 or R4 may find themselves in an overlay area- or with slight zoning changes that they barely notice. But if, for instance, they don't appreciate trucks with signage  parked on their street, and if that is one of the changes being proposed, they should be aware this is happening. Their comments and feelings should be helping Committee members  in the process. After changes have been formulated and agreed on by the committee, it may be more of a challenge to convince the committee what the constituents actually want.  And many neighborhoods  next to commercial areas have had  red-lines drawn around them  and are also under discussion for changes. In the words of the head of the Re-write Committee these reflect 
“an ongoing process examining all possibilities to deal with the consistent conflict between certain residential communities and commercial/institutional/industrial areas throughout the township”.  But if your house is in a conflict or "transition area" that  might be re-zoned from strictly residential to allow offices, condos, apartments or another higher density use, you might not appreciate the manner in which the conflict is being resolved. And I personally am perplexed by watching another area be developed where residential is being purposely sandwiched between the commercial uses .  Are we creating new conflict zones?

    If our current vacancies ( like the Baederwood Shopping Center, the Williard) were filled to their allotment - our traffic would increase . Additional zoning allowances will  create another level of  traffic entirely. Will a heavily trafficked throughway might have you sitting a lot longer in traffic to get to the soccer game . Or  will your sunny open suburban street  have 5  story buildings built right up to the sidewalk - more of a city feel?  Yes of course we want better shopping and nicer districts.   But how much? And how do our voices get recognized?  I don't recall seeing a movie theater yet? Is one in the plan?   And what are the consequences of the stronger commercial "voice" .
       Originally I was told they were trying to  possibly finalize this by September 09. If so, the main hearings then would  likely be held in July & August when the majority of residents are on vacation or cherishing summer time with their kids. These are well-known "low turn-out"  months. Commissioner Kline tells me that there is no timetable on the process other than as soon as possible.  The Committee has been at this for over a year & the Commissioners have had the R1 through R4 draft for several months now, allowing them time to absorb & question. But residents will have to get up to speed quickly when  they finally are notified & 
nearly no one I have spoken to has a clue yet that this is underway.

WILL I BE NOTIFIED ? WHY DIDN'T I KNOW ABOUT THIS?
   
 Yes, of course , there is notification to residents and an opportunity for them to speak in all Township affairs - and especially in ones that might change their property rights.  Nobody is claiming there are or were  "secret meetings"  or "conspiracies"  --- words  thrown into the mix to discredit those getting the word out.  But the open, public meetings have been going on since at least March of 2008 and virtually no one I have met in the township was aware of them. That includes folks whose houses are under discussion to be rezoned or who live adjacent to areas that will be re-zoned rather dramatically.  These are complicated issues. They involve many facets of Zoning & Planning that Township personnel & Commissioners have gotten up to speed on little by little- and already were much more conversant in. Understanding the overall, interactive consequences of this  is a task that will not be easy for residents. In addition, should they want to unite their voices, that  is a task that takes another  great length of time - and is rarely accomplished unless a few dedicated people invest fully to do it. Further, residents comments are limited and they rarely understand the whole issue, so precious comment time is often spent asking questions. And by waiting  until the whole comprehensive  township wide plan is "unveiled",  a situation will be created at the presentation meeting where no individual section  will be focused on, diluting the ability to make a certain area's desires really known. Changed meeting times & dates, etc etc - there are a thousand reasons that residents in each area should have been informed more specifically about what was going on in the early stages, when effecting a change in the process is much more likely. The Eminent Domain meetings in Roslyn going on since early 09 or before, might have been of much more interest to those who might stand , in the overall scheme, to have their properties re-zoned as part of an overall "revitalization".
    

WHAT  CAN WE DO ?
 Now is the time for us to join our voices. Get your neighborhood linked in - so that  all can learn the facts and be notified when meetings are coming up.      Sign up to receive our periodic Newsloop to stay informed

It is really important to get as many informed as possible, to know when the meetings are and how to unite your voices. And please share back with me anything that you learn that should be on this site.

WHERE ARE THE SOME OF THE AREAS UNDER DISCUSSION  ?
The 4 main areas of the Old York Rd Corridor improvement  are :
Noble train &  The Fairway area---////  Susquehanna & Old York Rd  area-- ////  London Center by Target & Giant -////  Roy Rubicam  & the Crestmont train  area 

Then these are largely the areas where residences meet commercial  that were red circled
1   Abington Library area  Old Orchard  Canterbury Woodcrest  Harte hilltop Wyndale Baeder Rd
2   Ardsley  between Mt Carmel, Jenkintown & North Hills Ave - Cricket Tennis Maple Central Hamel Elm
3   Ardsley Station area Jenkintown Road ---Maple Hamel  Monroe Harrison Jackson
4   Willow Grove - Blinds To Go area   Moreland Old York  Strafford   Rockwell
5   Willow Grove  - Moreland Road near Fleming Osborne Lukens Coolidge
6   Willow Grove Mall area Old Welsh Reservoir  Rubicam and Easton Road
7   Willow Grove  - Crestmont Station area  Ferndale Roy Rubicam Hamilton Tremont Rockwell old Welsh
8   Abington Hospital Area - Highland and Wheatsheaf  from Susquehanna to Old York Rd -
                Keith Rockwell key woodland Horace Wheatsheaf Susquehanna
9   Hollywood  Shady Lane  Berkeley San Diego Gibson Redondo Los Angeles Fox Chase
10  Glenside  Jenkintown Rd  & continuing  up Easton Rd to Tague Cross & a little more
11  Glenside Keswick area Oakdale Woodlyn Fairhill
12  Elkins Park Hospital area- Township Line  Holme Barry Perry Runner Ray  Church  Susan Rolling Hill
13  McKinley  Cyprus Lime West Cadwalader Tupelhocken Huron Odessa  high school Road
14  Roslyn - Avondale Radcliffe Lafayette Independence Colonial Brookdale Woodland Arlington Norwood
          Kenderton Bradfield  -- and they have just voted to take the property on Easton Rd from an elderly
         owner by Eminent Domain to make a nice "Town Center " in this neighborhood.
15 Abington - from Susquehanna to the hospital along old York Road-  Guernsey Eckard Horace
16 Rockledge -Cedar Road Henrietta Huntington Pike old Huntington Pike Longstreth
17 Jenkintown - Township line Gordon Lenox Wyncote 

 + ......Additional Maps  exist of :
Glenside -Easton-  Menlo /Mt Carmel area -
Glenside  Geneva Weldon
Willow Grove - Ferndale & Rockwell  near Welsh
and there are 4 maps thus far of   business districts in my possession

 

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WHY DOES  THIS MATTER ?

The impact of these many, many changes will undoubtedly change our township dramatically over the course of the next decades ---   and residents should understand  & have  a reasonable opportunity to have input. These changes are underway  now - and I do not know if there is any possibility of reversing them once they are in place.
     Do residents know that the York Rd Plan suggests that where streets are 60 feet wide, buildings should be 60 feet wide (4-5 stories )  and that is is being recommended that they be built right up to the sidewalk in places along Old York Rd . That would create a "city" feel - and in fact would prohibit any widening or addition of a public transportation lane when the traffic became oppressive years down the road . In my opinion bonuses should be given to those who move back from the road and allow for adjustments to that busy corridor. There is much talk about "undeveloped areas"  - well that's why some of us like living here - because the (old) zoning didn't allow for every square inch to be developed. We don't all want the zoning changed.  I don't think these little details, that make so much difference, are being highlighted.  

     If you live in a  neighborhood  "under discussion"  to be a transitional area, you may feel the greatest impact as the zoning changes might affect what is all around you in the coming years.  In 10 years will your area  still have a "residential" feel - will it still be largely a neighborhood of homeowners or  will it be landlords and tenants ?  How are some residences being chosen for transition zones because residential use conflicts with commercial, yet just down the road residential units are being PLANNED to be smack in the middle of the commercial.

     All residents of this Township should be aware of the impact these changes could have on  traffic, noise, infrastructure improvements, the need for increased services, and perhaps most importantly of all the increased Commercial voice in our Township that may be heard above the Residential voice .  Residents are the voters.  But Commercial interests have an over-representation on our Boards including the Economic Development Board which voted in the consideration of the abatements.   The residents are the ones who voted the officials into office to safeguard their interests.  But all too often we see Commercial interests being put ahead of  our own.   This is our Township- and taking care of it requires our attention.

Traffic changes on the Old York Road Corridor alone might see an increase of  17,500 trips a day. It may be impossible to calculate the additional trips from the many, many other changes being proposed elsewhere along Old York.

Who is paying for street lighting, sidewalk repairs, landscaping , wastewater treatment up-grades,  etc . You might be surprised to see some of the expenses that residents have borne. And who might be getting up to 10 years of tax abatements, leaving residents to shoulder more than their share of the burdens of the services received by newly improved businesses (in certain areas that fall under guidelines of the LERTA laws?)  

 HOW DID THIS COME ABOUT ?
        In 2007,  a Comprehensive Plan update was completed & approved  for Abington Township.
In conjunction with that and in conjunction with other development issues on-going in the Township, ( like the more than 10 million dollar Old York Rd Revitalization Project), your Commissioners and others are re-writing zoning codes, theoretically to meet the needs expressed in the new Comprehensive Plan.   (But, as I recall, there was no real input from neighborhoods on that either - not of the significant kind that we are trying to establish - where your voice is the one that guides the "authorities" rather than the other way around.  There were opportunities for residents to speak but little was done to gather communities to have a say in their futures
        So, in the Comprehensive Plan,  they may have identified a shortage of  multi-family dwellings and apartments in Abington, or senior units. So they are aiming to amend that --- by simply allowing for more units than we currently have . Between you and me, the lower density  is one of the treasured features appreciated by residents of our township. Many of us moved here because of the lack of congestion and the green space and the beautiful single family homes in strictly residential neighborhoods. There are plenty of  "mixed use neighborhoods" right in the Northeast.  But we chose Abington instead.    


WHAT'S THE LATEST UPDATE

6-23-09Zoning  Ordinance  Rewrite Committee meeting - many of the transition zones were discussed - Commercial areas continue to be discussed as desirable when mixed use including residential is considered while other areas are considered "in conflict" when residential is in close proximity to commercial.  One reason offered  to explain this  was that these new "planned" units will be occupied by people who "know" they are buying in a commercial district. But didn't the others know that they were buying "next to" a commercial district --??? That knowledge didn't create harmony........  Other residents in attendance questioned why we were changing residential areas to commercial, however light , and increasing commercial areas when we had so many unoccupied and unutilized. 

6-3-09 Presentation to Commissioners by the hired consultants of the Old York Rd Corridor study -after which residents spoke We offered some of the "downsides" that had not been shared, and residents asked about the plans on their properties and registered strongly against rezoning  their residential properties.  While I was accused of offering misinformation, I asked again for help understanding whatever had been misunderstood . Some  residents were given "indirect answers" about whether their house was or was not being considered for re-zoning.  Misinformation and  false accusations were made  from the dais . For example: a woman from Rydal did NOT write the anonymous letter . The Hospital Rep who sits on the zoning re-write Committee DID, in fact, make comments about expansion. (They can be seen in the minutes which I will gladly email you.)  The Old York Rd.  plan  DOES include specific recommendations about re-zoning,  contrary to one Commissioner's assertions. And the answer that should have been given to a resident who asked if his house was under consideration for rezoning  would rightfully have been a simple "yes" .  That's just a smattering of what came from the dais. No lies or slander were spread by those of us hoping to get the message out. We were alerting people that this was going on, & advised that it might take a while to get up to speed - which included running all information by their Commissioner - as this site also directs. We all have to recognize that at times people misunderstand, or our words may not be chosen carefully enough not to have more than one meaning.  But when Commissioners bash the messenger, while simultaneously leaving their residents uniformed ( or misinform them) about meetings & details  that might be important  to them,  we have a problem that needs to be fixed.  
Still have received no summary of the R1 -R4 changes.

6-2-09 Mr. Matteo has promised a summary of the R1 - R4 changes so we can discern what's new about the Draft Revisions.  The Zoning Rewrite Committee  today discussed form-based & hybrid  zoning and talked about using  two test areas as examples of this - among other things.

6-1-09  My Commissioner - who earlier said he would not share with me the info needed to understand the R1 through R4 changes until AFTER the meeting,  is now suggesting he may not do so at all.

 5-23-09   I got the R1, R2, R3 & R4 notes today -in the form of Draft Revisions  to the Ordinance. This is the part that was discussed Mar 08 to Nov 08.  Now I just need to know what parts were CHANGED - or I would tediously have to compare them to the current  ordinance to know.  And I got the April minutes.

5-21-09 Got all 17 maps today -actually 21 altogether . Still need April meetings and the summary or notes from Mar 08 to October 08 .

5-21-09  I  had information that a summary had been issued - but I think that had been confused with the Old York Road Corridor Summary .  I have just received some more maps that I'll download tonight and April's minutes .  But I find it a travesty that the residents don't know what is happening in their own neighborhoods.  Commissioners making great noises about communication need to communicate vital information when our property rights are at stake.  I have been trying for a year to get this information . I was told that the plans were to perhaps try to finalize it by September - that means that in the summer - with kids home and family vacations  when no one wants to hunker down to business, the hearings would be held. Can anyone say foul play?

May 17th 09 I have been to about six neighborhoods, talked to many many people and found not ONE who knew about these re-writes.

May 09 We finally have in our hands  some information ---  neighborhoods in Abington are being "circled" and scheduled for rezoning.   Residents need to know about this . Nearly no one in any of the circled areas I visited was aware their home was included . Are their Commissioners  aware this has been happening for over a year?  Or have they just not informed their residents? .

December 08 - Commissioner, we find out later have been given a summary or the R1 R2 R3 R4 changes. We are not afforded the privilege - we do not find out til May that these exist.

June 08 - April 09  The meetings are open to the public - but the "report"  to the Commissioners at public meetings includes  nothing that informs us  about the kinds of changes being discussed - so people are not alerted to the importance of these meetings.

6-08 We have not yet gotten word of what changes exactly are being done but we will try to update you when we know.  Knowing about these changes is an  important part in having a voice in preserving the things we love about our township.  If you and your neighbors are unaware of what changes might affect your ward, call your Commissioner to find out ---- and then let us know, too, please so we can update others.   You can point your neighbors here to learn & share more.

May 27th, 2008  was the 3rd Zoning Re-Write meeting .  We began to ask what they were encompassing.  An idea of the scope & what was to be re-zoned.....

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WHEN ARE ZONING REWRITE MEETINGS ?   
          Regular Zoning Re-write meetings
are being held  5 pm  every  the fourth Tuesday .   They are held at the Township Building  ( Planning Commission Meetings are held at 7:30 after these meetings)   Please double check with your  Township (267-536-1000 ) or the website to check for changes, which have been frequent .   Or ask your Commissioner . The final Old York Rd Corridor presentations was to have been the one Nov 5 2009  - then the language was to be "tweaked" with the results and it would be expected to be scheduled for approval by your Commissioners).
        

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